Ilvl 99 Wf... Is it duped?

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Sorry im not really familiar with ilvls. But today this guy was in a normal game, i was using my lvl 9 dueler and i join game
"09 WF Here"
I Said show... he showed, i said wat u want for it... he said 6 hex, it was an 8% mana leech one with Ohm in it. I said are you sure it's not duped? ilvl 99....
He kept saying no i found this...
I find it strange selling an 09 WF 8% ml and Ohm for 6 Hex...
Can anyone tell me if this wf was duped? Or when i see ilvl 99 Items are they duped? eg. WF, GF, Valor?
 

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usually ilvl99 is duped but u sure its 09 does it hav dex n str in it n wat realm are u on?
 

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Yes, i'm sure its 09.
It adds +5 Dex. Not +35
I'm on USWest
(If you have a chr good for lag duping, I'm looking for partners :D)
Srry bout that ^| Didnt wanna post a new thread//reply
 

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Actuall, that is not necesarily true. I have found two windforces over my time playing the game. One had 6 percent mana leech, and was lvl93, but the 8 percent that i found was lvl99. I think that maybe the perfect windforce comes out as 99. I really don't know though...
 

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the ilvls the lvl of the monster that dropped it correct?
what if a lvl 99 boss dropped the item? such as baals council... then the item isn't necesarly duped...
anything from larzuk is ilvl99 because he can have any mod in the game
 

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well i think like dust601 you are maybe able to get a lvl99 "legit2 wf from baal or nihlatak (if he drops hydra bows) and another way is to gamble a 99 from a high enough npc but than its 100% not unid. and in the last days there is a spread of ilvl99 unid wfs and they must be duped (besides this many of the id wfs does not matter wich % are duped too, if you are trading for a unid wf not lvl99 you got a chance about 80-90% that its a wf wich is "legit found on pindel" (if bots are "legit")) ;)
 

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u can get an item to stay unid from gambleing.i did it a while back try to figure out dupes.just block one of the packets that sent out when u buy a gambled item.3 i think it is.so it is possble to get ilvl 99 unid wf.
 

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in map hack there a lil command u have to change for item lvls its something like item lvl 0;1 u have to change taht to 1;0 and when u go into a game and see someone item with map hack it will have an item number in one of the corners of the item box if the item number is 1 or 99 then thats means that its duped =D
like most of the 08 WF that i have looked at are lvl 99 which are duped before they patched the d2hackit dupe method. So unless u use map hack you will not know if the item is duped or not. =D hope this helped
 

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Also not necesarily true, Runes all have a level of one: duped or legit... And by the way, I found one of the windforce off of pindle(the lvl 93 one) and the other I believe was Lister the Tormenter.(Not quite Sure)
 

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well with my idea not many ppl r gonna know bout the block THEN accutly gamble for a wf too so odds r really small to get a ilvl legit unid wf
 

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And, sure no one will rule out there aren't SOME... MAYBE 1 or 2 legit wf's that are i99 but... uummm use mh and look around about 99.9% of the 09 wf's you see are i99.... what does that tell you?

If you see a i93, I'm guessing there's the possibility IT CAN be a dupe, but I've seen only ONE since I've decided to look around for legit wf's. And it's been awhile. I'd take my chances with an i93, or even i95? (baal can drop it can't he?). I just don't see why you'd go around with a 09 WF that you're pretty sure is a dupe when you can go around with a 08 wf that IMO is better. So when I found out my 09 wf was i99 I traded it for an i93 Eaglehorn AND 08 WF. I think I got compensated pretty nicely for it considering I now have a BETTER WF that is duped and a legit Eagle which is something I've never had.
 

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a1steaksauce:
u can get an item to stay unid from gambleing.i did it a while back try to figure out dupes.just block one of the packets that sent out when u buy a gambled item.3 i think it is.so it is possble to get ilvl 99 unid wf.
sounds intresting hmm maybe you can tell me the packed wich need to be blocked? (but its strange if this can be done cause i think the server id it as well and its unid only client side than or? or does the server waits after gambling till the client tells him again to id it? was the item unid after you joined another game or was it id than (cause if it was so its just a clienside efect and worth nothing)
 

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think about it....WHY would any1 sell their LEGIT 09 8% wf that they found themselves for 6 hex....i wouldn't even think about selling a 09 8% wf that i found myself
 

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well many shoped items are lvl99 and 100% legit just unid elites and sets are nearly 99% duped cause i only can think of baal and nihlatak with charlvl 99 or? may i am wrong and not even this both can drop lvl99 items so if there is nearly no monster which drops that items they are duped in nearly 100% of all causes. (besides this many id wfs with any item lvl and any % are duped during many waves like the bugged games // pot matrix etc... best chances to get a "legit" wf is to trade for unid 1 not lvl99 and best is to bot till you get 1 yourself if bot found wf is legit :)
 

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Originally posted by -ShadowT2-
the ilvl "dupethingy" is not PROVEN to work, i tested it. their are SOME liget ilvl99's
Not proven to work? I think it helps, that to me is enough. Elite uniques with ilvl 99 are dupes. Go find a legit. They're not as common as you think keeping the 'keep unid' trick with gambling in mind. People can't truly TRUST that the ilvl of the item means it's duped. However, we all can take a pretty good guess using the ilvl of the item to determine it's legit-ness.

Someone was saying that Baal's minions are lvl 99 ... no.

(First number is in Norm, NM, Hell)
Minion of Destruction 55 70 90

Baal 60 70 95

Nihlathak 65 70 95 <--- For him to drop a WF would be slim to none considering no one hits him more than once... IF THAT.

Either way, there isn't a lvl99 monster. Only thing I can see that is wrong with using ilvls is that the cruels that I get off pindle vary. Some are i98 or i99. Maybe it'd determined differently for magic items I don't know.

Point is if someone is under-asking - if that's a phrase - for a perfect or even IMperfect i99 wf than don't bother unless you just want to screw around with a duped LEGIT item...when you can get the 08 a bit cheaper (than even what they may be asking for duped 09) and it's better.

I dunno what possible tests you can do to figure out if it's working or not, but I'd say use some common sense while trading. Ya, I use the ilvl of the item but it's not the only thing I USE. Try using some common sense...

Anyone trading a legit 09 wf has either been WAY TOO LUCKY with pindle or it's a dupe cause I see no reason to trade one. If you're a D2 addict like most people that play that game whether you're gonna use it or not, you keep one and if you actually do have more than one than you trade that other for all the (insert currency here) you want.

Don't trust the trader? Don't trade. I wouldn't trade anything for an i99 elite unique because they're worthless and if my item is gonna be subject to a dupe check or rust storm - well, I'd rather have a godly item on me that I know is hacked/bugged/duped.
 
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