Humans: The imperfect evolution

[RyanXWing]

If you really think about it Humans are an imperfect evolution, Every other single organism has a purpose except Humans We destroy everything. We will eventually destroy the entire world if we dont change. So I must ask are we really the smartest animal generally speaking? I mean Dolphins are smart and they dont destroy the enviroment like us.

 

[Tempest Storm]

The purpose of every creature is to live. Life is the ultimate reality show. Boilogically, our job is to live as long as possible, have off-spring, and die when we can't fend for ourselves.

But us humans, having evolved opposable fingers to match our brains, have effectively escaped Natural Selection. No longer "survival of the fittest" in the human world. Modern science has made it so even the weakest of ppl have a chance. Which is why we're over populated. You'll notice how our population increased along with our handle of medical science. The balance has been shattered. More ppl live than die. Soon, we'll be the complete masters of our habitat. That is what makes us the mater species. We're no longer subject to the laws of Natural Selection.

 

[RyanXWing]

You know, I never thought of it that way.
But still the damage has been done, We have caused the extinction of a few races... I dont know how many but how was this meant to happen.

Nature works in mysterious ways indeed.

 

[Tempest Storm]

More than a few actually, but a tiny fraction of the total of extint species and genres in the course of the history of the entire Earth. We are not subject to the laws of Natural Selection, they are.

 

[Jaden]

wow thats quite interesting, do you personally think that any other specie could evolve to the point where they also have escaped natural selection?

 

[Tempest Storm]

Well, it's possible. Hell, we did it. I can't really think of any species that could do that, but many of them could given the right circumstances and enough time. Though, humans would prolly kill em first, don't need competition for the top of the food chain.

The key to our succes, is opposable thumbs and high intellect.

 

[igetgreens]

Originally posted by Spike~

No longer "survival of the fittest" in the human world. Modern science has made it so even the weakest of ppl have a chance. Which is why we're over populated.

WOW...i've always thought like that...that's why i think so many people are so F****D up...cuz the survival of the fittest mean only the strong with the best genes survive...i feel that if natural selection still had effect on us...we would be perfect

 

[kamille]

People are only refering to Darwin quoting the "survival of the fittest".
But In Darwins book about evolution, this is only mentioned a few times.
He speaks much more often about ethics and moral then from the survival of the fittest.
He only uses that to describe our early stages in evolving from monkeys and general animal evolution.
Later he talks about that ethics will evolve in big societies.

Btw: What is imperfect evolution ???
Such a thing doesn't exist. Think about the meaning of the word evolution. It actualy means something is changing to get better, thats a continual process. And it doesn't necessarily mean physical strengh or health. Take Stephen Hawking for example. He understands better then anyone what the univers is doing. You think humans will cause less harm to the world, if such people wouldn't be capeable of living.

I think the other way around. If we were still under the direct influence of natural selection, we would abuse our powers to get as much resources as possible.
Organisations like greenpeace prove that humans have evolved thoughts about things like that every living creature has its right to be there. And to come back to Darwin, thats what he predicted.
So our evolutionary goal should be, to find a way to coexist with all other living beings under common ethic rules, and we are far away from acieving it. And if we once acieve this, evolution won't stop there.

 

[Galatia]

Originally posted by Spike~
But us humans, having evolved opposable fingers to match our brains, have effectively escaped Natural Selection. No longer "survival of the fittest" in the human world. Modern science has made it so even the weakest of ppl have a chance. Which is why we're over populated. You'll notice how our population increased along with our handle of medical science. The balance has been shattered. More ppl live than die. Soon, we'll be the complete masters of our habitat. That is what makes us the mater species. We're no longer subject to the laws of Natural Selection.

Interesting point of view but wrong.

A. Earth is overpopulated because we keep on having children without thinking what we are doing. Remember the Bible?
*Multiply and conquer Earth*. This is what brought us to this point today.

B. No matter how hard we try we will never be *masters of our habitat*. We just destroy and face the consequences. Unlike what we prefer to believe, Nature has Laws. And those who brake those Laws are punished.

C. The *survival of the fittest* theory applies to humans as well as it did thousands of years ago. It is the definition of the *fittest* that has changed. Ten centuries ago the *fittest* was the strongest. Today the *fittest* is the *smartest*.

 

[CelestialBadger]

Ryan, you seriously think that humans have the power to mess up the world so much as to destroy it? Keep on dreamin' you imperfection you.

 

[Tempest Storm]

Originally posted by Galatia
A. Earth is overpopulated because we keep on having children without thinking what we are doing. Remember the Bible?
*Multiply and conquer Earth*. This is what brought us to this point today.

Thats only part of the problem. It used to be living to 40 was a miracle. Now the average lifespan is 70 and up for many in 1st world countries. Technology keep them alive. Technology also allows ppl who were born weak and with sickness to have a good shot at life. More ppl are having more and more babies and not enough ppl are dying.

B. No matter how hard we try we will never be *masters of our habitat*. We just destroy and face the consequences. Unlike what we prefer to believe, Nature has Laws. And those who brake those Laws are punished.

We're closer than any other species. We can manipulate our surrounding, create artificial mountains, lakes and everything inbetween. The only thing we can't sontrol in the weather.

C. The *survival of the fittest* theory applies to humans as well as it did thousands of years ago. It is the definition of the *fittest* that has changed. Ten centuries ago the *fittest* was the strongest. Today the *fittest* is the *smartest*. [/B]

Oh bullshit. This world is rampant with stupid ppl. The world is full of strong ppl, weak ppl, smart ppl, and stupid ppl. There is no "survival of the fittest" anymore.

 

[Galatia]

Originally posted by Spike~
Oh bullshit. This world is rampant with stupid ppl. The world is full of strong ppl, weak ppl, smart ppl, and stupid ppl. There is no "survival of the fittest" anymore.

Every year at least 7 million infants in the Third World die before they reach their first birthday (not to mention the statistics for older children). The *survival of the fittest* rule is still alive and kicking, Tempest. Maybe not in the USA but USA is not the world.

And yes, we can manipulate our environment but we dont control it. We can cut all the trees from a forest but we cant control the Nature's reaction to this.

As for the overpopulation, here are some United Nations facts:

*Even with the rapid growth of the elderly, however, the bulk of the dependent population worldwide will remain during the coming quarter century. Nearly 9 in every 10 persons making up the combined dependent age groups in the less developed regions of Africa, Asia and Latin America are under age 15 today. And children will still account for three-fourths of all dependents in these regions in 2025. Only in the United States and other more developed countries will elderly dependents come to outnumber dependents under the age of 15 over the course of the next 25 years.*