Gamecube or no?

[SpiritSkater]

i was recently thinking about buying a gamecube because a friend keeps bragging about how good it is. I have been thinking about it and cannot decide. I need to know some good games and if its worth my 100 smack a ****in roo's. Oh yeah is it any good compared to the ps2 cuzz i already gots a ps2 and am gettin dsl soon (socom 2 w00t).

 

[AxL]

What kind of games are you into?

 

[SpiritSkater]

umm im really into all types of games actually, i cant say that i have a favorite genre

 

[AxL]

I highly recommend the first games you get are:

Metriod Prime

The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker

Viewtiful Joe

 

[foolz]

gamecubes are for little kids.. nintendo games are babish.. 'cept zelda

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by foolz
gamecubes are for little kids.. nintendo games are babish.. 'cept zelda

FANBOY ALERT! FANBOY ALERT!

 

[Samsara]

well here is ur typical fanboy giving his 2 cents on the subject (with less foaming in the mouth this time!)

first off the cube is better than xbox hands down (cmon it has virtually same system specs and a controller that isnt the size of a big mac) and there is no game out there that xbox has that isnt on another console (or computer) that is truly good.

the only problem is the ps2. it is the big N's rival for many reasons:
more games
same amount of "blockbuster" titles
good controller (though i hate the sticks on it)
best online play (u dont have to pay for it, TAKE THAT XBOX LIVE!!!!)
and its not made by gates.

nintendo is great if you are a social person and enjoy having grudge matches between friends or if you have ALOT of free time.

i suggest the following:
zelda (i know that the graphics seem kiddy but behind it is one of the best zeldas ever)

metroid, cmon it whupped halo in terms of single player action (said so by egm and gamepro)

hehe i know im gonna get yelled at but here goes: animal crossing, THIS GAME STEALS YOUR WILL TO EAT, SLEEP, LIGHT AND ANY SORT OF SOCIAL INTERACTION. i swear that this game steals your soul its so addicting. (read what i said about zelda, its incredibly deep)

phantasy star online is bitching. it rivals d2's item collection frenzy. RARE ITEM, MUST BE MINE-faint (ten bucks says that ul say that if u get that game)

smash bros. cmon any game that turns loved friends into sworn enemies is awesome (i swear me and my brother didnt make eye contact for months)

soul calibur imo is best on the cube cuz u get link which is a cheap bastard but then agen the controller is better on ps2 (cube has better graphics and smoother and like 5 second loading time)

resident evil for being a bitching scary game that it is.

and ANY mario party that is to come or has come.

 

[God Illuvatar]

Foolz is an uber newb. Rofl. I have a GC and im 16. I have always been a Nintendo customer. Whoever recommended Metroid Prime (i got), Zelda (got), and Viewtiful Joe (rented), knew wtf they were talking about. Gc owns. Ps2 is characterized by shitty graphics, except for Final Fantasy games. And hell, who really wants an Xbox, if all the games get ported to PC anyways . I would also recommend Rogue Leader 2, and Rebel Strike 3, both Rogue Squadron. Also, Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg. The gamecube has some kick ass titles coming out soon, among them the Metroid Prime sequel.

Now have said that....


GET YOUR ASS OVER TO TOYS R US AND GET A GAMECUBE!!!!!!

 

[Samsara]

yay i got a following.

oh ya i forgot to include soon to be crystal chronicals if ur into final fantasy.

 

[bamthedoc]

I have a GC, and I'm planning on getting a PS2, soon. If you like RPGs, there have been many game review magazines (GameSpot, IGN, and many, many more) that say that if SquareEnix does not start producing for Nintendo, they will be dethroned as the "RPG King". I can't remember who they said the "prime" rival is, but it may be Atlus or Quest. It could even be CAPCOM with Megaman RPGs (Battle Network = GBA; Network Transmission = GC; Onimusha Tactics = GBA; etc.).

Nintendo is not kiddie. One example, a rather stupid one, is a game called BMX XXX. It is censored on the PS2, but not on the GC or X-Box. That means that BMX XXX has nudity on the GC. Like I said; it's a stupid example.

Oh! Greatest kart racer of all time!! Mario Kart: Double Dash!! ("!!" are in the title)

It's a stupendious kart title. It's better than Mario Kart 64, too

 

[Samsara]

ya and the 64 version is hard to top.

 

[bamthedoc]

Mario Kart 64 was the standard by which all kart racers were rated. Now it's Mario Kart: Double Dash!! That's what I've been reading a lot of, anyway. I'd tend to agree, though

 

[Hot Action Akule]

first off the cube is better than xbox hands down (cmon it has virtually same system specs and a controller that isnt the size of a big mac) and there is no game out there that xbox has that isnt on another console (or computer) that is truly good.

wow your stupid. Xbox has far better specs than gamecube, and some would argue far better games. Halo, Star wars KOTOR (though its now out on computer), Bloody Roar (damn those gfx rock!) ect. I'll post the specs for the two soon but your are DAMN ignorant. And yes i got a gamecube and xbox so im not biased or anything. Also xbox controllers have been sized down and are now being comming with the xbox instead of the larger ones.

Fool

 

[Hot Action Akule]

Xbox:

CPU: 733 MHz chip crafted by Intel
Graphics Processor: 250MHz custom chip named XGPU, developed by Microsoft and nVIDIA
Total Memory: The RAM in the Xbox will be supplied by Micron, it will be 64 MB running at 200MHz DDR (Double-Data-Rate)
Memory Bandwidth: 6.4 GB/sec
Polygon Performance: 125 M/sec
Sustained Polygon Performance: 100+ M/sec (transformed and lit polygons per second)
Micropolygons/particles per second: 125 M/sec
Particle Performance: 125 M/sec
Simultaneous Textures: 4
Pixel Fill Rate - No Texture: 4.0 G/Sec (anti-aliased)
Pixel Fill Rate - 1 Texture: 4.0 G/Sec (anti-aliased)
Compressed Textures: Yes (6:1)
Full Scene Anti-Alias: Yes
Micro Polygon Support: Yes
Storage Medium: 2-5x DVD, 10GB hard disk, 8MB memory card
I/0: 2-5x DVD, 10GB hard disk, 8MB memory card
Audio Channels:64 (up to 256 stereo voices)
3D Audio Support: Yes
MIDI DLS2 Support: Yes
AC3 Encoded Game Audio: Yes
Broadband Enabled: Yes
Modem Enabled: No
DVD Movie Playback: Remote control package required
Maximum Resolution: 1920x1080
Maximum Resolution (2x32bpp frame buffers +Z): 1920x1080
HDTV Support: Yes
Controller Ports: 4 USB Ports

The Controller

The Xbox controller is designed from thousands of hours of comfort and usability testing. It is home to:
- Two analog pressure point triggers
- 6 analog buttons (red, blue, green, yellow, black, and white) with 256 degrees of accuracy and control
- 1 eight way directional pad
- 2 menu navigational buttons (back, start)
- 2 peripheral expansion slots,
- 9 feet of cable
- 2 vibration feedback motors for that extra buzz of reality.

Connection Devices & Add-Ons
High Definition AV Pack: This pack connects users that have high-definition ready TVs that support 480p 720p and 1080f component video signals, analog inputs and / or digital receivers.
Memory Unit: Serving as a solution for needed extra storage space.
Advanced AV Pack: Works with S-Video and AV input TVs
RF Adapter: Connects the Xbox to TVs without audio and video connections
Standard AV Cable: Connects the Xbox to TVs equipped with audio and video input terminals. Included with the Xbox.
System Link Cable: A cable for connecting two consoles for 8 player gameplay
DVD Kit: A Kit is required for DVD Movie playback, the kit includes an infa red receiver and a remote.










GC:

Features

• Contemporary cube shape
• 4 controller ports
• 2 memory card slots
• Capacity for future modem/broadband connection
• 485MHz custom CPU with 162MHz custom graphics processor
• 40MB total memory; 2.6 GB per second memory bandwidth
• 12M polygons per second; texture read bandwidth 10.4 GB per second
• 64 audio channels
• Dimensions 4.5" x 5.9" x 6.3"

Technical Data

ATI Flipper

• 162 MHz
• 4 pixel pipelines
• 1 texel per pixel pipeline
• 4 texels per clock cycle (4 pixels with 1 texel per pixel)
• Maximum of 8 texture layers per rendering pass (done in 8 clock cycles)
• 650 megapixels per second
• 650 megatexels per second
• Point, Bilinear, Trilinear, Anisotropic Mip-Map Filtering
• Perspective-Correct Texture Mapping
• Bump Mapping
• Environment Mapping
• 24-bit Z Buffer
• S3TC Texture Compression
• Subpixel Anti-Aliasing
• Geometry and Lighting Engine
• 33 million polygons per second (peak)
• 6 million to 12 million polygons per second (with effects)
• Hidden Surface Removal (HSR) based on early Z-test
• Virtual Texture Design
• 2MB Embedded Frame Buffer
• 1MB Embedded Texture Cache
• 10.4 gigabytes per second texture cache read bandwidth
• scene texture data stored in 24MB 1T-SRAM main memory
• 8.6 GFLOPS
• Custom Macronix 16-bit DSP Sound Processor
• 81 MHz
• 64 voices
• ADPCM encoding
• sound data stored in 16MB A-Memory

IBM Gekko CPU

• PowerPC
• 485 MHz
• 32-bit integer
• 64-bit floating-point
• 64KB L1 cache (32KB instruction + 32KB data)
• 256KB L2 cache
• 1125 Dhrystone 2.1 MIPS
• 1.94 GFLOPS

CPU external bus

• 64 bits wide
• 162 MHz
• 1.3 gigabytes per second bandwidth

Main Memory

• 24 Megabytes MoSys 1T-SRAM
• 64 bits wide
• 325 MHz
• 325 megabits per second per pin
• 2.6 gigabytes per second bandwidth

A-Memory

• 16 Megabytes DRAM
• 8 bits wide
• 81 MHz
• 81 megabits per second per pin
• 81 megabytes per second bandwidth

Storage

• 3-inch Optical Disc Technology (1.5 gigabytes)
• memory cards



Imho, i think xbox is far better than GC, mainly because of the graphics, and gameplay. Halo is probably the best game i've ever played and i've played quite a bit. I love my xbox, and i love my gc but i prefer my box more.

 

[IDefy]

I wouldn't spend it on a system. I'd buy two computer games actually. But if you don't currently own any systems I would go with PS2 it has the largest variety of games and has a lot of more interesting games, sure xbox has better graphics but it lacks high many high quality games just like GC.

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by bamthedoc
I have a GC, and I'm planning on getting a PS2, soon. If you like RPGs, there have been many game review magazines (GameSpot, IGN, and many, many more) that say that if SquareEnix does not start producing for Nintendo, they will be dethroned as the "RPG King". I can't remember who they said the "prime" rival is, but it may be Atlus or Quest. It could even be CAPCOM with Megaman RPGs (Battle Network = GBA; Network Transmission = GC; Onimusha Tactics = GBA; etc.).

Nintendo is not kiddie. One example, a rather stupid one, is a game called BMX XXX. It is censored on the PS2, but not on the GC or X-Box. That means that BMX XXX has nudity on the GC. Like I said; it's a stupid example.

Oh! Greatest kart racer of all time!! Mario Kart: Double Dash!! ("!!" are in the title)

It's a stupendious kart title. It's better than Mario Kart 64, too

GS is the best reviewing site IMO. But Game Rankings is good if you want everyone's perspective.

Also FANBOYS STAY OUT! I wish you guys could just realize that every system has its pluses and negatives.

 

[Samsara]

Originally posted by Akule
wow your stupid. Xbox has far better specs than gamecube, and some would argue far better games. Halo, Star wars KOTOR (though its now out on computer), Bloody Roar (damn those gfx rock!) ect. I'll post the specs for the two soon but your are DAMN ignorant. And yes i got a gamecube and xbox so im not biased or anything. Also xbox controllers have been sized down and are now being comming with the xbox instead of the larger ones.

Fool

um didnt all of those games come out for other systems. and those specs....PSHH

during game play there is little to no difference when playing bloody roar, soul calibur, and most other games play the SAME OR MICROSCOPICALLY LESS.

plus name 5 RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLYYYY good games that are xbox EXCLUSIVE. now whos the ignorant one.

 

[foolz]

Hey, illuvator, **** jou

no newbie gonna tell me what to do.. so take your super mario bros and blow it out your ass

 

[God Illuvatar]

Rofl ok tough guy. Your just digging your own grave, talking likethat... I wish I could tell you how stupid you look. From a unbiased perspective, Nintendo means fun and quality. Always has alwayswill. But if the next system doesnt play gc, Iwillbe mad.

 

[bamthedoc]

What did Axl just say...?

Oh yeah!!

FANBOYS GET OUT!!

You called the GC "kiddie", and anyone with brains would realize that it isn't. NO SYSTEM IS SUPERIOR!! Specs aren't the only thing that determine a "good" system. X-Box is good, but it fails in keeping games exclusive to itself. If I'm correct, Microsoft produced Halo, and they then made it for the PC. That is a STUPID move because that's when you start killing your own system. If you could make a list of X-Box titles that will remain on the X-Box only, I would be more considerate towards getting it. As it is now, the exclusivity is throwing me away from the X-Box.

I am 21, so there is no way you can say that there aren't "older" generations liking the GC. The GC has the most exclusives on it's system; though, I have to say that "percentage" wise. Why? The PS2 has more exclusive titles if you include its ability to play PS games. Next generations consoles have been announced. At this time, they are being called the N5 (Nintendo's fifth home console), PS3 (Sony's second console), and X-Box 2 (Microsoft's second console). Sony announced a "rival" for Nintendo's GameBoy, but the PSP has turned out to be more hype than anything else. Nokia tried the same thing, and the N-Gage has, so far, failed misserably in delivering up to expectations. Nintendo has also announced a new GameBoy; though, I haven't heard its project name. It may be the GB5.

Nintendo is the longest surviving company for a reason. The NES and GB were great systems. The SNES was better, and the GB Pocket was innovative. The N64 seemed to take a step back because people were looking more for CD based games, and the GBC was a big step up. The GC may have done to Nintendo what the Dreamcast couldn't for Sega, and the GBA is the most accomplished system on the market. The N5 and GB5 may have an easier time keeping Nintendo alive in the market.

If Microsoft doesn't change how they go about the video game market, they will not be able to continue to keep the X-Box alive. Sony has done quite well with the PS2 leading the market into the "CD Video Game" era. Nintendo may well release the N5 before Sony and Microsoft can release their next generation consoles, as Nintendo has promised they will do.

And that ends my anti-fanboy rant...