Flaming_Newbie's Vindi/Temper guide

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Flaming_Newbie's Vindi/Temper guide

The Vindi/Temper is a VERY powerful dueler with the right gear. This is strictly a PvP build.. so don't expect to be soloing hell baal (or anywhere for that matter). My build is gonnna focus on the FOH more than the smite, because few ppl are smart enough to deal with FoH. (and the smart ones get creamed by smite when they switch to resist anyway :p )

Skills

FoH = 20
Main damage skill here....

Holy Shock = 20
Senergy to FoH

Conviction = 25 TOTAL (after gear +skills)
Now this skill will depend on how much +skills you have plan on using.... put more points here if you have less +to this tree. The reason you don't put any points into this skill past 25 is becuase conviction dosen't go past -150 resits and at lvl 25 thats what you will have.

Smite = 20
This skill puts the vidi in vidi/temper :p and it works well with chars that stack resists

Fanatacism = 1
Points into smite and holy shield is more important.

Holy Shield = the rest
Boosts block %, defense, and smite damage.

Stats

Strength = enough for gear
Dexterity = max block with holy shield on... add as your block % drops
Vitality = the sky is the limit!
Energy = base

Gear
Im going to divide this up into 2 parts: caster gear and melee gear.

CASTER DUELING GEAR
Armor: CoH (any will do)
Helm: Perf 5/5 Faceted Griffions Eye
Shield: Zak Shield
Weapon: Hoto
Weapon2: Cta + lidless
Belt: Arachnid Mesh
Boots: Sandstorm Treks
Gloves: Dracul's
Rings: 2xSoJ or 1xSoj and 1xRaven Frost (for dueling cold sorcs)
Amulet: Maras
Inventory:10xcombat skillers with life fhr + Anni

MELEE DUELING GEAR
Armor: CoH (any will do)
Helm: Shako (+skills,life,dr) or Gaze (if your lack DR)
Shield: uped Zak Shield(for +skills) or ber/ber/ber girswald sheild(for max smite damage and high DR)
Weapon: Doom War Spike
Weapon2: Cta + lidless
Belt: Verdungo's
Boots: Sandstorm Treks
Gloves: Dracul's
Rings: 1xSoj and 1xRaven Frost
Amulet: +3 combat skills ammy
Inventory:10xcombat skillers with life fhr + Anni

Dueling Strategies

Ok... your general strategy with foh is to hold shift and use charge to charge in circles around you opponent until conviction takes affect. After this happens quickly switch to foh then back to charge. Continue this until he is dead :) . Here are some specific strategies for dueling certian chars:

Im only gonna list the ones that i think should be mentioned:

Pallys
Zealot: EZ. These guys will fall quickly if they don't have light resits. When they do have lite resits on... switch melee gear to smite and squash them.

Hammerdin: These are a VERY tough. I haven't found a way to beat them if they have lite resist. If they don't just repeat the general strategy

Barbs
WW Barb: These are a little tough. If they don't have lite resits just avoid their ww and FoH them. If they have resits, put on your melee gear and hold shift while clicking on them. DR and defense is a must.

Zons
Bowzon: Never should you use FoH on a zon... they dodge it most of the time. Instead switch to melee gear and charge and splat them with smite.
if you reach them within your freeze arua... they are as good as dead.
CS Zon: Stock up on light resits/absorb and repeat above.

Sorcs
Any Sorc: For pretty much any sorc you just need to charge around and hit them with FoH. Its hard to hit them with smite cuase they usually have a very fast cast rate and can tele away ez.

Druids
Windy Druid: These are tough. Your best bet is to charge them and use smite. Make sure you have 50% dr with you
 

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You will be much better off putting an emphasis on the smite rather than FoH. An enemy puts on there 4x topaz shield, tgods, wisps, and what not, and FoH is negated. However, they are now an easier target for smite since they are using alternative gear. You're better off with the skills allignment i posted in the other thread
 

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owned ez imo, iv'e seen these guys their smite is good but only for like 2 hits then they die. and foh i dont know cuz i always carry tgods and 200+ lite resist. might work on noobs though
 

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meh i got 300 all resists on my pala. tods + wisps and your foh is negated. and i'd still be using my regular gear for the most part. how much would your smite dmg be? 1.6k? or 2k?

edit: btw the "my pala" would be my smiter so a decent smiter would kill you.
 

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Holy shock is retarded to use it helps holy bolt and holy dmg dosnet effect pvp
 

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Flaming_Newbie said:
Holy Shock = 20
Conviction = 25 TOTAL (after gear +skills)
Fanatacism = 1
Holy Shield = the rest
Uhm, I'd rather put the skills in this way:

MAX Smite
MAX Holy shield
MAX Fanaticism
MAX FoH
1 to all pre-reqs
Conviction all the remaining points.

Keep in mind that FoH is easily pwned by opponents just wearing lit res / absorb gear, and you have to use smite a lot, cuz it's a very effective attack in pvp, if you can reach your opponent.


As to gear, I suggest you to use different solutions depending on your opponent: for example, if you don't need resists, CoH is very bad to use, and an Enigma or a Duress can be a lot better for your duels.

Shield is a difficult choice, cuz it depends on what you need; if you need teh dr, you can use a 3x Ber Griswold shield, if you need skills / resists, you can use an Upgraded Herald of zakarum; if you need tons of defense, nice bonuses and life ta (and nice resists with the right shield), you can use an Exile eth Sacred rondache (or Vortex shield if you like the max smite damage) with +4x to all resists.

Weapon is another important thing. Imho, HotO sucks. You'd better use a Fleshripper, or a Kingslayer Phase Blade. A Silence Phase blade is a good option, too, cuz it has skills, resists, fhr and nice speed. It really depends on your opponent. And remember a nice thing when dueling in 1.10: Open Wounds = pwnage.

So, Gore rider can become a suitable option for this kind of pala, even if Sstreks (eth = better) are a very good choice.


Try to adjust the gear section and the skill choice, cuz the Smiter / FoH can be a very powerful build if used in the correct way.
 

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have you made this build exactly the way i have it? no. Then don't make comments on stuff you don't know what your talking about.

Btw my pally with this build does 6.5k FoH damage and 4k smite damage.

EDIT: @djnat: This isn't a "gee, this would own" guide. This is a "gee, i know this will own cuase i have a lvl 85 char built just like this". Its dangerous to make suggestions if you haven't tested them yourself. And i guess you didn't read under my MELEE GEAR section where i said to use a doom ws.
 

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wow this is real pwnage but my hammeradon pwns fohadons ez. i got -32 lite ressist and i still pwn them with my wittle hammers
Ohh and btw :*( i lost my fuqing eth dc man in damn xfer when some fagget left the game :XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX WHY ME!!! U ****IN BLIZZARD!!!!
 

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Updated the strategy section, more to come.

@t3h-g0d you deserved to lose your items if you xfered in a public game
 

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so your using the vortex shield then correct? tested vortex dmg on single i only did 3.5k and i had hs maxed along with max fanta. so there's no way u can have 4k smite since your build doesn't have max fanta nor does it have max hs. gg nice lies.
 

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mmm my holy shield is lvl 37 and my smite is lvl 40 and my fanata is lvl 7.... so shhhhh

EDIT: damn i was thinking of my foh damage with melee gear on lol. :rollie its i checked and its only 2k >_<
 

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@guru welll thats a no brainer :rolleyes

anyone got any more divine guidance to offer :rolleyes
 

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no, no more divine knowledge to share i hope...
 

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Is there any way you'd be OPEN to listening to peoples' suggestions without automatically bashing on them? AFAIK, Smite conveys OW, DS, CS, and CB. Why not slap on a duress, Gores, and Draculs, and just OW the hell out of them? OW is very effective in duels, hence the reason why most pallies are trying to get an eth Zod Razors. 50% Open wounds is just crazy in duels, and I think you'd be able to kill faster (less chance of them getting away if they're dead) if your smite did OW also.

On another note: Just met a guy in a trade game that said "Lol why did you waste a zod in that eth Razors?"

I just laughed. Laughed till he got pwnd by my nec after I re-outfitted him. Stupid hammerdins, I swear.
 

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So you said No to almost a 100% chance at Open Wounds? Weird, because Open wounds does an insane amount of damage, hence the popularity of Eth Razors for zealers. Hmm....
 

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Well in his gear selection under inventory, he said he had 10x compab gcs....4k isnt hard to get with smite with that many +skills. But i do agree with Guru. Focus more of your skills on smite and you would be better off. That's just my opinion.
 

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