Create units that can be seen by all players

[titoufred]

Hello

I want to make a UMS Multiplayer map that can be played 4v4
and I have to create units (such as crystals) that can be seen by the 8 Players.
Can anybody tell me if there's a way to perform that ?

I tried to create the crystals for player1
then give them to player12 and turn on player12's share vision but it does not work.
(Player 12 cannot share vision with other players i guess)

It seems difficult to use map revealers since I don't know how much crystals there will be during the game (they appear from time to time randomly and there can be 30 crystals or more)

Some clever guy does know the answer ?

Thank you all.

 

[Romanian]

Actually, if you just put the minerals from the start and remove fog of war, they will appear on the map, if you have buildings that are initially there, leave fog of war over them so they do not appear on the screen. If you don't understand what i'm saying, post here and i'll give u more detailed answers.

 

[titoufred]

I want crystals (uraj,khalis or khaydarin) to appear during the game
The crystals are not there from the start , they can't be discovered at the start of the game.
They appear later and after that they must be seen by anyone even if they are transported by a drone...

 

[Sakuhta]

er... make it an invincible unmovable marine with 0 damage and make every player have a queen that parasites it

 

[Tuxedo Templar]

Powerup crystals? Well one thing you could do is cycle their ownership, as in have a trigger that passes them around between all players in the game constantly. Be sure though that it passes around ONLY between players actually in the game, because there is a glitch where if you 'give' a unit to a player not in the game (either they left or never joined), the unit will then become what I call a zombie and be totally untouchable by triggers (and have it's alliances/vision turned off to all players to boot.)

 

[eX-reaver]

do u mean like so its a cloacker crystal try disableing it in triggering if that is what u mean

 

[Romanian]

I think what he means is:
At start of the game do:


Trig 1
COND: Player 1 commands at least 1 unit
ACTION: Create 1 uraj crystal at location 1 for player 1
/////////////////////////OR///////////////////////////
COND: Player 1 commands at most 0 unit
COND: Player 2 commands at least 1 unit
ACTION: Create 1 uraj crystal at location 1 for player 2
///////////////////////AND SO ON /////////////////////////
COND: Player 1 commands at most 0 unit
COND: Player 2 commands at most 0 unit
COND: Player 3 commands at least 1 unit
ACTION: Create 1 uraj crystal at location 1 for player 3

Trig 2

COND: Player 1 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 2 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 3 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 4 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 5 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 6 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 7 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 8 commands at least 1 unit
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 1 at location 1 to player 2
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 2 at location 1 to player 3
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 3 at location 1 to player 4
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 4 at location 1 to player 5
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 5 at location 1 to player 6
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 6 at location 1 to player 7
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 7 at location 1 to player 8
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 8 at location 1 to player 1
Preserve trigger


Trig 3

COND: Player 1 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 2 commands at most 0 units
COND: Player 3 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 4 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 5 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 6 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 7 commands at least 1 unit
COND: Player 8 commands at least 1 unit
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 1 at location 1 to player 3
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 3 at location 1 to player 4
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 4 at location 1 to player 5
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 5 at location 1 to player 6
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 6 at location 1 to player 7
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 7 at location 1 to player 8
ACTION:Wait 100 miliseconds
ACTION: Give 1 uraj crystal owned by player 8 at location 1 to player 1
Preserve trigger

And so on...
Once you make the first one, the rest will be easy cos u just gotta copy em.

 

[titoufred]

Ok Thank you for your ideas
I did the cycling owner thing of Tuxedo Templar but did not use the romanian implementation.
I don't want to use Wait since it freezes all other triggers...
I use 3 switches that determine which player owns the crystal.

Trigger1: Toggle Switch3 (preserve)

Trigger2: COND: Switch 3 is 0
ACTION:Toggle Switch2 (preserve)

Trigger3:COND: Switch 3 is 0
Switch 2 is 0
ACTION:Toggle Switch1 (preserve)

Trigger4:COND:Switch 1 is 0
Switch 2 is 0
Switch 3 is 0
Player 1 commands at least 1 unit
ACTION:give crystal to Player1 (preserve)

Trigger5:COND: Switch 1 is 0
Switch 2 is 0
Switch 3 is 1
Player 2 commands at least 1 unit
ACTION:give crystal to Player2 (preserve)

and so on....

I use Hyper-Trigger too.


It works pretty well although the crystal disappears from time to time. When the crystal is held by a drone it remains invisible for other players but this is impossible to deal with i think.

Tell me what you think