Counter mass ghouls

[Bishop]

as night elf i get raped by a team of dread lord with like 8 ghouls and 4 fiends.

keep in mind this is one versus one.

 

[Ntrik_]

hmm yea i had prob with that too.. warden with Fan is must in this case... make like 2~4 archers, then mass hunts, fast tech and mass dyrads and bears with 2 mgs.

 

[Bishop]

ya but by the time that u fast tech, they have womped on your base and pissed on your ashes. after all it doesnt take much time to get that army and esp. if u let them tech to stats and dk.

 

[Ntrik_]

like i said, have at least 1 protector and good build arrangement, and u'll do fine in defending

on behalf of mods, swooper, theroy, I welcome to dark side of war3 forum Bishop

 

[None293823]

Get mass hunts upgrade them and heal with your wells

 

[Aragorn7]

Originally posted by N_LeGeNd)
like i said, have at least 1 protector and good build arrangement, and u'll do fine in defending

on behalf of mods, swooper, theroy, I welcome to dark side of war3 forum Bishop

Damn the dark side.... =/

Just get mass hunts btw....it is all you really need to beat UD. (unless he goes mass fiends).

 

[Ntrik_]

MUHAHAHA THE DARK SIDE CONVERSION!!!

anyways, jus becareful of UD going for mass GArgs... then u get f*cked, so make sure u get mass dyrads and bears.

 

[Bishop]

rite now im trying the mass hunt build then working my way to mass archer with druid of the talons to counter act gargoyles that come rite after.

keep in mind that i dont transform my talons to crows just cuz they get pwned by gargs. i mainly use them for ff.

oh and i try to get some bears and giants into play because abominations and frenzy'd ghouls pwn archers and casters. i dont like dryads against undead because they have crap armor and they dont have any buffs that im particularly afraid of.

 

[Ntrik_]

hmm well dyrads have slowp oison and abolish to help out =/ if u dont want them, get archers. Get like 2~3 talons, that should be enuf for FFing.

 

[None293823]

Get 3-4 giants and 1-2 bears

Dryads against ghouls with frenzy isnt very good idea

 

[Ntrik_]

frenzying ghoul is bad idea too, they lose their life fast, and they only got 330..

 

[BluddLuSt4Life]

He means the ghoul frenzy upgrade at tier 3. Your right about unholy frenzy though, unless you have statues its not a good idea to UF your ghouls, -4 hp per second is too much for them. Dryads are a must against mass ghouls I think, archers have no chance but you still need some piercing to help take them down. If they are massing ghouls early, chances are the gargs are on the way, so you do need some kind of anti-air as well.

 

[None293823]

Archers are raped by ghouls quickly they have no chance.Dryads definately not many against ghouls- to unholy frenzy or frenzy you can add the bear's roar or rejuvenation,as a stable melee group that can counter frenzied ghouls

 

[AJ007]

lol thats my strat for undead against ne >_< get hunts, moonwell healing, and if u can beast master if not get kotg and entagle as many ghouls as u can

 

[Ntrik_]

heres an idea:
-Warden's FoK
-KotG's throne and entangle
-Bears
-Mgs
-some dyrads to support

wow.. you jus pwned!

 

[Andrew]

either you can do that legend said or somehow get a lot of chims, beat his army quickly, and kill his base quickly so he dont get gargs

 

[Ntrik_]

tru tru, however chims take forever to make, and mass ghouls take only like 5m in.

 

[Andrew]

mass ghouls arent very good unless they have frenzy so they have to get to tier 3

 

[Ntrik_]

hmm i had encounter wit fast tech UD with mass ghouls + statues... now it was very annoying, i lost in the end. Heres whati had:

-2 mgs (they never died)
-warden + KotG
-dyrads + dotC
-chims in the end (they massacored ghouls, but enemy started amking fiends..)

jus do that, go fast tech to chims, with 2 mgs fully upged, u can take mass ghouls, but u cant kill. Jus defend, dont attack. Attack when u get chims, Also, hide the fact that your making chims.. that way you will win!

 

[Samsara]

The only problem with your strat is that it requires an early expansion to pull off the gold requirements and a really fast tech which makes you decide whether or not to skip the AOW and get there faster or take the AOW and not be able to get tier3 to get your army.

This is ghouls we are talking about, how the hell do you expect a decent UD player to use them till you are making chims and fully upg. MG?!?!!? By that time they would have a flock of gargoyles, master Necromancers, Disease ridden Wagons and Abominations and perhaps maybe tri hero nuking. gg legend.