EEX_ca_aok
Praetoris Maximus
I'm merely curious... I really don't like either major candidate, or any of them for that matter. But I'd vote for Kerry just to get Bush out. Here's a few spots where he went wrong:
1. Bush single handedly turned the largest budget surplus in history into the largest defecit in history - 455 Billion
Whered all the money go? Tax cuts, and the war in Iraq. Both unnessesary.
2. Lied about weapons of mass destruction- (25000 litres of anthrax, 38000 litres of botchulism) -remember that speach
Is that how much Regan sold to them?
3. Cut soldiers combat pay in half, no health care for reservists, 1.5 bullion cut to family housing, 20 billion cut to military health care, cut health care for veterans
Then he tells us to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!!11!!
4. Disolved more international treaties than any other president
See below.
5. Completely alienated almost all other countries in UN.
UN: Let's send inspectors to find out if they are manufacturing weapons of mass destruction.
US: Ok.
UN: kk nothing so far.
US: kk.
UN: There's still nothing.
US: OMG CIA SAYS THEY ARE MANUFACTURING INVADE!!!!11
UN: Hrm still not finding anyt---
US: INVADZORING GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!!
6. Completely ruined american foreign policy
See above.
7. War in Iraq a complete failure. 1000 soldiers dead- 35000 Iraqi's dead
rephrase: 36000 people dead. For what? Democracy? Many were not even soldiers, they were innocent Iraqi citizens, either killed by rebels, terrorists, or dumb American soldiers (not to mention canadians... does anyone remember the americans blowing up a jeep with 4 canadian soldiers in it?)
8. Cuts taxes when the government needs money the most
Spend money, then remove your income. Smart move.
9. Made the biggest cut in unemployement benefits in history
Let's just let them die and decrease the surplus population why don't we.
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I'm not looking for a bunch of flames, I'm asking why people feasibly support Bush.... yes Kerry is not perfect either but this stuff is serious.
And before anyone mentions his "No one gets left behind" education program, it was a complete dud. His sucess rates in Texas were falsified. One school he reported had only a 0.3 dropout rate, wheras in reality over half the students failed to graduate.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/
Here the FBI more or less admits to abusing the patriot act for non-terrorism related crimes.
I mean seriously, if you vote Bush, there will be more screwups. If you vote Kerry he'll likely screw up. Neither candidate would make a good president IMO (thought neither would Nader lol).
I personally see no good can come of this situation. Either way you guys are screwed. The solution: get someone who would acctually make a good president to run.
We can pick apart everything Bush has done right and done wrong, but put Kerry in those situations and you probably would have had similar or worse results (though he probably wouldn't have had the balls to piss off the UN and the rest of the planet, lol).
The bottom line is this: the official cause of the war was a retaliation against terrorists (the "We will not negoticiate with or stand down to terrorism" thing), specifically Osama Bin Laden, in AFGHANISTAN. How much success was there? None except some taunting tapes received from him. So the US ousts the Taliban & some terrorists. Well at this point it's all well and good.
Then Bush makes the amazing executive decision that US troops are in the perfect position to move into Iraq, where oh so mysterious WoMD are apparently being manufacutred. No evidence of the such was found. (btw if they really did have weapons, they either would have been out of the country ASAP or being manufactured somewhere else, like on a remote pacific island or such.) So in other words, it was really just a justification to move in and install a puppet gov't like the US did in Afghanistan. Antagonized by the fact that his father failed a decade earlier, he kept spurring on.
And now you have armed forces in Iraq (being constantly attacked by rebels and terrorists), blowing up their own bloody men, not to mention Canadian peacekeeping soldiers (you bombed your allies retards). People die in the streets every day. What are you hoping? That you'll eventually quell every single rebel? It isn't going to happen. So until Bush pulls out, more men will die needlessly everyday. And when Bush pulls out, the "democratic" Iraqis are as good as dead, and yet another Saddam style gov't will take over, or possibly a worse one. So as you can see, there is no turning back. Why? Because Bush ran blindly into Iraq and now has his own men as good as trapped there. This is a war you can't win by advancing on a capital and forcing the enemy to surrender. Terrorists are everywhere.
Comments? (Try to refrain from flaming people with opposing views: mods close this thread if it gets out of hand)
1. Bush single handedly turned the largest budget surplus in history into the largest defecit in history - 455 Billion
Whered all the money go? Tax cuts, and the war in Iraq. Both unnessesary.
2. Lied about weapons of mass destruction- (25000 litres of anthrax, 38000 litres of botchulism) -remember that speach
Is that how much Regan sold to them?
3. Cut soldiers combat pay in half, no health care for reservists, 1.5 bullion cut to family housing, 20 billion cut to military health care, cut health care for veterans
Then he tells us to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!!11!!
4. Disolved more international treaties than any other president
See below.
5. Completely alienated almost all other countries in UN.
UN: Let's send inspectors to find out if they are manufacturing weapons of mass destruction.
US: Ok.
UN: kk nothing so far.
US: kk.
UN: There's still nothing.
US: OMG CIA SAYS THEY ARE MANUFACTURING INVADE!!!!11
UN: Hrm still not finding anyt---
US: INVADZORING GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!!
6. Completely ruined american foreign policy
See above.
7. War in Iraq a complete failure. 1000 soldiers dead- 35000 Iraqi's dead
rephrase: 36000 people dead. For what? Democracy? Many were not even soldiers, they were innocent Iraqi citizens, either killed by rebels, terrorists, or dumb American soldiers (not to mention canadians... does anyone remember the americans blowing up a jeep with 4 canadian soldiers in it?)
8. Cuts taxes when the government needs money the most
Spend money, then remove your income. Smart move.
9. Made the biggest cut in unemployement benefits in history
Let's just let them die and decrease the surplus population why don't we.
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I'm not looking for a bunch of flames, I'm asking why people feasibly support Bush.... yes Kerry is not perfect either but this stuff is serious.
And before anyone mentions his "No one gets left behind" education program, it was a complete dud. His sucess rates in Texas were falsified. One school he reported had only a 0.3 dropout rate, wheras in reality over half the students failed to graduate.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/
Here the FBI more or less admits to abusing the patriot act for non-terrorism related crimes.
I mean seriously, if you vote Bush, there will be more screwups. If you vote Kerry he'll likely screw up. Neither candidate would make a good president IMO (thought neither would Nader lol).
I personally see no good can come of this situation. Either way you guys are screwed. The solution: get someone who would acctually make a good president to run.
We can pick apart everything Bush has done right and done wrong, but put Kerry in those situations and you probably would have had similar or worse results (though he probably wouldn't have had the balls to piss off the UN and the rest of the planet, lol).
The bottom line is this: the official cause of the war was a retaliation against terrorists (the "We will not negoticiate with or stand down to terrorism" thing), specifically Osama Bin Laden, in AFGHANISTAN. How much success was there? None except some taunting tapes received from him. So the US ousts the Taliban & some terrorists. Well at this point it's all well and good.
Then Bush makes the amazing executive decision that US troops are in the perfect position to move into Iraq, where oh so mysterious WoMD are apparently being manufacutred. No evidence of the such was found. (btw if they really did have weapons, they either would have been out of the country ASAP or being manufactured somewhere else, like on a remote pacific island or such.) So in other words, it was really just a justification to move in and install a puppet gov't like the US did in Afghanistan. Antagonized by the fact that his father failed a decade earlier, he kept spurring on.
And now you have armed forces in Iraq (being constantly attacked by rebels and terrorists), blowing up their own bloody men, not to mention Canadian peacekeeping soldiers (you bombed your allies retards). People die in the streets every day. What are you hoping? That you'll eventually quell every single rebel? It isn't going to happen. So until Bush pulls out, more men will die needlessly everyday. And when Bush pulls out, the "democratic" Iraqis are as good as dead, and yet another Saddam style gov't will take over, or possibly a worse one. So as you can see, there is no turning back. Why? Because Bush ran blindly into Iraq and now has his own men as good as trapped there. This is a war you can't win by advancing on a capital and forcing the enemy to surrender. Terrorists are everywhere.
Comments? (Try to refrain from flaming people with opposing views: mods close this thread if it gets out of hand)