Bush? Why do people support him so much?

EEX_ca_aok

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I'm merely curious... I really don't like either major candidate, or any of them for that matter. But I'd vote for Kerry just to get Bush out. Here's a few spots where he went wrong:

1. Bush single handedly turned the largest budget surplus in history into the largest defecit in history - 455 Billion

Whered all the money go? Tax cuts, and the war in Iraq. Both unnessesary.

2. Lied about weapons of mass destruction- (25000 litres of anthrax, 38000 litres of botchulism) -remember that speach

Is that how much Regan sold to them? :p

3. Cut soldiers combat pay in half, no health care for reservists, 1.5 bullion cut to family housing, 20 billion cut to military health care, cut health care for veterans

Then he tells us to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!!11!!

4. Disolved more international treaties than any other president

See below.

5. Completely alienated almost all other countries in UN.

UN: Let's send inspectors to find out if they are manufacturing weapons of mass destruction.
US: Ok.
UN: kk nothing so far.
US: kk.
UN: There's still nothing.
US: OMG CIA SAYS THEY ARE MANUFACTURING INVADE!!!!11
UN: Hrm still not finding anyt---
US: INVADZORING GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!!

6. Completely ruined american foreign policy

See above.

7. War in Iraq a complete failure. 1000 soldiers dead- 35000 Iraqi's dead

rephrase: 36000 people dead. For what? Democracy? Many were not even soldiers, they were innocent Iraqi citizens, either killed by rebels, terrorists, or dumb American soldiers (not to mention canadians... does anyone remember the americans blowing up a jeep with 4 canadian soldiers in it?)

8. Cuts taxes when the government needs money the most

Spend money, then remove your income. Smart move.

9. Made the biggest cut in unemployement benefits in history

Let's just let them die and decrease the surplus population why don't we.
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I'm not looking for a bunch of flames, I'm asking why people feasibly support Bush.... yes Kerry is not perfect either but this stuff is serious.

And before anyone mentions his "No one gets left behind" education program, it was a complete dud. His sucess rates in Texas were falsified. One school he reported had only a 0.3 dropout rate, wheras in reality over half the students failed to graduate.

http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/

Here the FBI more or less admits to abusing the patriot act for non-terrorism related crimes.

I mean seriously, if you vote Bush, there will be more screwups. If you vote Kerry he'll likely screw up. Neither candidate would make a good president IMO (thought neither would Nader lol).

I personally see no good can come of this situation. Either way you guys are screwed. The solution: get someone who would acctually make a good president to run.

We can pick apart everything Bush has done right and done wrong, but put Kerry in those situations and you probably would have had similar or worse results (though he probably wouldn't have had the balls to piss off the UN and the rest of the planet, lol).

The bottom line is this: the official cause of the war was a retaliation against terrorists (the "We will not negoticiate with or stand down to terrorism" thing), specifically Osama Bin Laden, in AFGHANISTAN. How much success was there? None except some taunting tapes received from him. So the US ousts the Taliban & some terrorists. Well at this point it's all well and good.

Then Bush makes the amazing executive decision that US troops are in the perfect position to move into Iraq, where oh so mysterious WoMD are apparently being manufacutred. No evidence of the such was found. (btw if they really did have weapons, they either would have been out of the country ASAP or being manufactured somewhere else, like on a remote pacific island or such.) So in other words, it was really just a justification to move in and install a puppet gov't like the US did in Afghanistan. Antagonized by the fact that his father failed a decade earlier, he kept spurring on.

And now you have armed forces in Iraq (being constantly attacked by rebels and terrorists), blowing up their own bloody men, not to mention Canadian peacekeeping soldiers (you bombed your allies retards). People die in the streets every day. What are you hoping? That you'll eventually quell every single rebel? It isn't going to happen. So until Bush pulls out, more men will die needlessly everyday. And when Bush pulls out, the "democratic" Iraqis are as good as dead, and yet another Saddam style gov't will take over, or possibly a worse one. So as you can see, there is no turning back. Why? Because Bush ran blindly into Iraq and now has his own men as good as trapped there. This is a war you can't win by advancing on a capital and forcing the enemy to surrender. Terrorists are everywhere.

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People who are ignorant support Bush. Then again anyone who supports either candidate is stupid.
 

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I don't like Bush nor Kerry, but I would rather choose Bush (I'm voting Nader), because Kerry just bashes Bush. That's all he does. His sorry ass can't think of anything to say, and always says Bush did this, I wouldn't have done that. We don't care what you would've done, what will you do? Kerry is like a baby in the womb trying to be the president. He is a waste of flesh.
 

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It's all in opinion. Back in 2000 people thought he was going to do real well, they ahd now ay of knowing all this would happen.

Personally Kerry wotn do much better than Bush...

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Kao said:
I don't like Bush nor Kerry, but I would rather choose Bush (I'm voting Nader), because Kerry just bashes Bush. That's all he does. His sorry ass can't think of anything to say, and always says Bush did this, I wouldn't have done that. We don't care what you would've done, what will you do? Kerry is like a baby in the womb trying to be the president. He is a waste of flesh.
So, just because Kerry bashes Bush, you wouldn't vote for him? I guess my History teacher was right that a lot of the people who vote on election day, don't vote for the right reasons.
I personally hate how the country is going right now.
In less than a year, I'm going to be able to drive by myself legally and have to pay for my own gas. I don't want to start paying $3 or $4 per gallon a year from now.
There are a tons more stuff I could point out, but I think it's not worth it to discuss it when a lot of people are Hardcore Bush voters.
 

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Higher gas prices means lower death rates in car accidents. Damnit!
 

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People are stupid, they'll still buy gas and they'll still die.
 

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I'm not voting Kerry because all he does is bash Bush. He never says this is what I stand for, this is what I will do for these topics. The only thing he says about that is- We will get our troops out of Iraq as fast as possible. Big ****ing deal, Bush could do that to. Kerry needs to stop being a little bitch (by bashing bush in every sentance he says), and cover the domestic stuff as well as the foreign policies also.
 

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Every Bush commercial I've seen bashes Kerry...
 

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Kao said:
I'm not voting Kerry because all he does is bash Bush. He never says this is what I stand for, this is what I will do for these topics. The only thing he says about that is- We will get our troops out of Iraq as fast as possible. Big ****ing deal, Bush could do that to. Kerry needs to stop being a little bitch (by bashing bush in every sentance he says), and cover the domestic stuff as well as the foreign policies also.
If you were running for president, you would bash at the current president, too. Many people have got something to bash about Bush. Kerry's speaking for me and hopefully many other people.
I just finished watching the 2nd presidential debate. People complain that all Kerry says is that he's got plans and stuff but Kerry doesn't explain how the plan works. If the debate gave a 30 minute respond time, then Kerry could explain his plan. You simply can't explain your plan in 2 minutes.
Bush bashes Kerry and vise versa so we can eliminate that discussion.
 

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EEX_ca_aok said:
either killed by rebels, terrorists
And that makes the war a failure how? They're who we were stopping smartass.
 

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Ok, so Kerry says Why didn't you look for North Korea? Or Iran? He says it's bad to cut the budget. Ok, yeah. So one minute he's criticizing Bush about how he should get his troops out of Iraq, but at the same time engage North Korea and Iran in an effort to rid terrorism and nuclear weapons? He contradicts himself. He says he'd do something about all 3 places (Iraq, Iran, and North Korea), but criticizes Bush for doing only one, and bashes him because he isn't engaging all three. He isn't happy because Bush didn't do a three-scale assault, but is mad that he didn't have the power to make that decision. He contradicts himself so much here, its' amazing. Literally.
 

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EEX_ca_aok said:
So we basically can't win, and we just sit here and let our troops die.
i said this was going to be the next vietnam before the war even really started....
 

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Kao said:
Ok, so Kerry says Why didn't you look for North Korea? Or Iran? He says it's bad to cut the budget. Ok, yeah. So one minute he's criticizing Bush about how he should get his troops out of Iraq, but at the same time engage North Korea and Iran in an effort to rid terrorism and nuclear weapons? He contradicts himself. He says he'd do something about all 3 places (Iraq, Iran, and North Korea), but criticizes Bush for doing only one, and bashes him because he isn't engaging all three. He isn't happy because Bush didn't do a three-scale assault, but is mad that he didn't have the power to make that decision. He contradicts himself so much here, its' amazing. Literally.
Now I don't know if this is all true because Kerry used big vocabulary and I probably understood it the wrong way. But Kerry wanted to give the UN Weapons Inspector more time to find out if there are WMD before going into war. He said he supported the war, but he doesn't support on how Bush is dealing with the war. Troops-wise.
He wanted to gain up with the ally and send a message to Iran that if you don't turn down your nuclear program, we will go tough. And if they do, we wouldn't have to pay much for the war because we got allies to help.
North Korea - Something about peace talking... with help from Russia, Japan, China, South Korea

I don't remember where I got this from, maybe here, but this is something that made me think:
Kat Stevens is on the No-Fly and Watch list, Martha Stewart is in jail. I feel so much more safe in America.
 

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