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First of all this would be a first time that someone used my guide format - that is both interesting and complimentary. On that note, because there is mild plagerism in certain areas, I do ask that you make it more visable that this guide was based off of mine.

As far as some tips:

-When you copy/pasted my Table of Contents from my Fire Druid guide, you did not edit any of the roman numerals. If I told you what those meant in standard numerals you would look like you couldn't count ;)
-Also make sure that anything listed in the TOC is located throughout the guide.
-Also be sure that the titles correspond correctly
-It seems to that you didn't spend enough time editing my guide layout to your personal guide
-You are going to need to offer more item choices to the reader
-I'm having a little problem understanding why the melee/caster strats are identical. Little too much copy/paste for me.
-If had never played d2 and followed your guide, my character would carry no charms, because you never told me what to carry in the inventory.
-I'm not convinced to make a bow assassin by your "Why" section. It's not convincing.
-You wrote less than one third of the words on this guide. That is disturbing.
-Now that I got to look at it a lot, I realize you should have added me in big bold letters under "Special Thanks" because I wrote 4/5 of this guide without knowing it. You should have also PM'ed me for permission regarding direct plagerism.
-Another problem is you used the Paladin names, which was derived from a Guide written by another person you don't know which you didn't get permission for.

I don't mean to sound like an asswhole - really I don't - because it was cool that you at least had my name at the top of the guide... but you said it was based off of my guide... Yet in all reality, you simply copy/pasted my guide, edited a few items, added one strategy list which you copy/pasted for melee/caster as if there were two different strats, changed a couple words on the leveling tips, gave us some skills and then wrote a few sentences telling us why we should make Your character --- and bam your an author. Oh yeah, and you deleted a few sections from my guide... if that matters.

If you used my guide as a... guide to making your guide (lol yeah that sounds weird) - I wouldn't have said a thing. Instead, you copy/pasted my guide and changed a few words here and there. That's why this post started out decently nice and ended decently pushy.

Ending on a lighter note, I still think it's very cool that you liked my guide enough to use it.
 

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x. Abbreviations Dictionary
xx. Paladin Names
I. Why a Bow Assasin?
II. Skill Choices
III. Stat Choices
IIIa. Equipment Choices
VIII. Leveling
IV. Strategies
VI. Approaching an Enemy Using Teleport
VII. Specific Character Strategies
VIII. Hot Keys
IX. Special Thanks
when you were plagerising fwi's guide, I think you messed a bit with the numbering... do you know what roman numerals are?

Real-Yours
I-I
II-II
III-III
IIII-IIIa
V-VIII
VI-IV
VII-VI
VIII-VII
IX-XIII
X-IX


I wouldn't call this guide, yours at all, and i'm surprised taht you wrote Fwi's name so small, and didn't even include him in the special thanks (if you even bothered to write your own special thanks)


P.S. this was based off of FWI's guide so props to him.
First of all, 'based off of FWI's guide' Copying his guide word for word and editing it here and there is a bit more than 'based off of'.

Secondly P.S. means post script, which means you should put it AFTER everything else.




on a side note, it's nice to know that you liked his guide, but i'm sure he could have been more than capable of writing an updated version himself. basically all you changed was 'max fade' to 'max BoS'...



-constructive criticism, needs more explanations of equipment and stat choices
-poor man's equipment choices... not everyone can just say 'ok, I guess i'll just use the best of the best...'
-more indepth and class specific guide to dueling
-your table of contents says you have a 'hotkey list' but you dont...
-your 'weapon switch' portion of your equipment choices doesn't have a sheild, just call to arms...
 

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Ill give you props for trying. but in all honesty this isnt my exact favorite guide. reasons why.
1. You mainly copy pasted from FWI about 2/3 of this guide so its not so much based off his guide, but his guide
2. No good reasons to use the gear you listed or skills
3. Why pally names?
4. Strategies were a bit iffy...
5. Why max fade and BoS u can only use one at a time

EDIT: now that i look at it. ur whole guide is practically all plagerized. u prolly copy pasted item names. and mostly everything from FWI. from now on try to use as minimum from other guides as possible. but if u do use stuff from other guides give proper acknowledgement. this isnt just "Based off of fwi's" it should be more like " a special thank you to fwi for all his material"
 

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I think you're a goofy noob that likes to plagiarize. Get some of your own material and be original for Christ's sake... Sheesh...
 

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deaddragon. we all said good job on an attempt. we gave you what you needed to hear. we gave you constructive criticizm? and you throw it back in our face? You wont get anywhere in making guides this way. We all have made guides failed miserably etc. and even when we got criticized we didnt say "who gives a shit u picky losers". AND, we never said it was anything about the looks. ITS THE MORALITY plagerizing is very much so illegal and you did that to the fullest extent. We didnt care that it looked like FWI's work it mattered that it WAS HISWORK. and that most of your guide was HIS WORK, and you only said it was based off HIS WORK.

FWI is a great guide maker, one of the best. And i bet u he didnt start out like you are.

edit: btw out of courtesy, welcome to battleforums.
Secondly, this isnt a good way to start out at battleforums.
 

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deaddragon said:
who gives a shit u picky losers

*EDIT* its not the looks its the concept god
so you're saying you wouldn't mind if someone stole something you made (eg: picture, story, etc) and took credit for it?
 

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Get some original material, then call it your own. Picky losers? See also, pot calling kettle black?
Three things....
1) Do u people have lives?
2) This is a guide not a flaming thread
3) How isnt this my own material? me and deathprophet made the bow assasin build? no1 else on this site knew about it untill i brought it here? and i just wanted to use his layout with the contents, and u guys think i copied the whole thing. Fcuking nerds
 

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deaddragon said:
Three things....
1) Do u people have lives?
2) This is a guide not a flaming thread
3) How isnt this my own material? me and deathprophet made the bow assasin build? no1 else on this site knew about it untill i brought it here? and i just wanted to use his layout with the contents, and u guys think i copied the whole thing. Fcuking nerds
1) Yes, thank you.
2) This isn't even a guide. Also the people here have done a very good job at retaining themselves without calling you a plain old dumbass, which could be easy to do if they/I wanted to.
3) I've made a bow assassin before - well before his attempt or your attempt at a guide was done. She was fun.

Oh, and just to humor myself... Here is a guide I brought over here before you were even ON these boards. Even funnier: it's located in the guides thread stickied at the top, yet you fail to recognize it was there two months before yours... PLUS its his work.

http://www.battleforums.com/showthread.php?t=99389


Couple numbers here for you based on my observations:

You personally wrote 146 words in your posted guide.
There are 1462 words in your posted guide.
You wrote 9.99% of that guide.
I wrote 99.01% of that guide.
I was not asked for permission 1 time.

Now let me show you how to give credit - the right way.

The above post is 100% written by me, except for the quote which was written by deaddragon. The calculations are thanks to Microsoft Word (Word Count) and Microsoft Calculator.
 

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Thank you FWI for clearing this up. and deaddragon, how f@#$ing dare you accuse us of flaming you. We were trying to help you, WE EVEN SAID THE FEW NICE THINGS WE COULD (not much anyways)...

Btw
1) yes i have a life, im just not a plagerizing guy whose a stubborn dumbarse
2) WE WERE GIVING U CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
3) read FWI'S reply, you got gg'ed so the least you can do now 2 save urself some humiliation is to say your sorry. but judging from what youve said before youll probably call us dumbarses or something..

P.S. (actually used in proper format) you got gg'ed by fwi so bad
 

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FWI contacted me about this and I'm going to emove this guide from the forums. Plagiarism IMO (an FWI's) shouldn't be allowed in any of the sections, and I'll make sure that there won't be any in my sections.

deaddragon, this guide has been sent to you per PM, so save it. Feel free to post your new guide, but make sure that you don't copy/paste any of the content from other guides without permission from the actual author.

Thank you.
 

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FWI said:
Although he will be recieving a private thanks, I would like to publically thank CM.

I owe you one.
Wow... Wow... Wow... I could careless about my bow assasin being removed, lol and clearly FWI u have no life (not talk to the other posters so stfu) FWI its Words, plus i didnt see a copyright sign on ur post.

P.S. this shit was 100% writen by me (FWI gay!) accept for the quoted part on FWI's post, and his is 9.7776% less words than mine (that also means FWI is gay)

P.s. BTW _CM wen u remove a THREAD YOU SUPPOST TO CLOSE IT! i owe u one? (FWI) does that mean ur going to publically give him a BJ? THIS IS A DIABLO FORUM BOARDS, take you personal life somewere else

3RD P.S. I WILL NOT BE POSTING ANYMORE "GUIDES" I THINK FWI has it covered enough. Btw again, u have no life end of discussion.

Close Thread.... :bouncy
 

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Funny. He has no life because he can actually write his own guides. You copy the guy that doesn't have a life? What does that make you?

ps. (fwi gay) Isn't much of an insult to him, but to the english language. Learn some basic grammar.

pps. Glad to see you finally learned how to use the 'post script' tool. So I guess your post wasn't 100% yours.
 

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Well.. actually most of us probably know any known builds...

Anyways, deaddragon, plagerize more at school and say "Who cares you picky losers" after you get expelled or suspended =/
 

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deaddragon said:
Wow... Wow... Wow... I could careless about my bow assasin being removed, lol and clearly FWI u have no life (not talk to the other posters so stfu) FWI its Words, plus i didnt see a copyright sign on ur post.

P.S. this shit was 100% writen by me (FWI gay!) accept for the quoted part on FWI's post, and his is 9.7776% less words than mine (that also means FWI is gay)

P.s. BTW _CM wen u remove a THREAD YOU SUPPOST TO CLOSE IT! i owe u one? (FWI) does that mean ur going to publically give him a BJ? THIS IS A DIABLO FORUM BOARDS, take you personal life somewere else

3RD P.S. I WILL NOT BE POSTING ANYMORE "GUIDES" I THINK FWI has it covered enough. Btw again, u have no life end of discussion.

Close Thread.... :bouncy
I truthfully think that I don't need to follow this one up. You kinda helped me with that post.

I am going to PM CM about this immediately, because there is no need for childish games. This thread should be closed very soon.

If you have a problem with me, anything I said, or my mathematics - you can do the right thing (what a novel concept) and Personal Message me about it.
 

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deaddragon said:
Wow... Wow... Wow... I could careless about my bow assasin being removed, lol and clearly FWI u have no life (not talk to the other posters so stfu) FWI its Words, plus i didnt see a copyright sign on ur post.

P.S. this shit was 100% writen by me (FWI gay!) accept for the quoted part on FWI's post, and his is 9.7776% less words than mine (that also means FWI is gay)

P.s. BTW _CM wen u remove a THREAD YOU SUPPOST TO CLOSE IT! i owe u one? (FWI) does that mean ur going to publically give him a BJ? THIS IS A DIABLO FORUM BOARDS, take you personal life somewere else

3RD P.S. I WILL NOT BE POSTING ANYMORE "GUIDES" I THINK FWI has it covered enough. Btw again, u have no life end of discussion.

Close Thread.... :bouncy
You don't have to tell me how to do my work. I left the thread open so you could post a new version of the guide yu wrote but I guess you didn't quite understand that meaning of my PMs.

Anyways, watch the flaming outside of the Asylum. You're on thin Ice. Be carefull, next warning (after the one you will get from me now) might get yout temp banned.

Have a nice day,

~cm
 
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