Best Two-race team/ally combo

[Bomba923]

What do u think is the best two-race team/ally group?
Human+Orc
Human+NE
Human+UD
Orc+NE
Orc+UD
Ne+UD
...or just two of the same race?

 

[AHappyChineseBoy]

I said orc/ud because I know from experience that they own. The only thing that really owns this is quick tech to casters.

 

[Biske]

Oh God. Has most of the strats reverted back to caster cheese? Wasn't that what TFT was supposed to get rid of? Correct me if I'm wrong, Pan, since you know more about this then I do.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Without enemy anticasters. the best team is probably undead and orc.

TC, DK. double aura gives 60% increased move speed, +1.5 increased hp/sec +15% increased attack rate.

shockwave and nova and war stomp=aoe damage from hell.

Grunts meat, fiends ranged. air is ebaten by bats, ground is beaten by vollys from fiends.

heros can both get the two best orbs in the game. orb of lightning = 35% chance to cast puerge on striking and corruption gives -5 armor reduction.

I have had two orbs on one hero and it is fun. Although im unsure if they stack those orbs are sweet.

and in really late game, you got the two best types of units. You got taurens which is the strognest tier 3 meele unit, with the bugged pulverize. you got wyrms which are the ebst heavy air unit with the splash/frost damage.

 

[NeverGoingBack]

they do stack Pan.

and I picked Orc+Human, why i dont know.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

I know damage stacked, im wondering if the effects did, cause I realize that a POTM with flame arrow won't get the effect from an orb of darkness, and Dark ranger wiill lsoe effect of the fire orb beacsue of black arrow.

 

[NeverGoingBack]

Are u sure, I will have to look through my replays to confirm, but Im pretty sure if u have lightning and darkness on one hero, it can purge, and raise skellies, but if you have two lightning on a hero it will not increase the chance of purge.

This is just theroy ofcourse, but yeah the damage stacks, Ill check on the other some time.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

No caue I rememebr having to actualy micro *shudder* when i bought a orb of corruption with my dr and had to switch on the arrow nad off when i wanted to raise skellys or get -5 armor.

I was jsut wondering if its the same thing with two differnet orbs than it is with an orb and a heros arrow modifier

 

[Theroy]

Dual undead or dual humans.

 

[Torubu]

Dual.. human? Please, give me some reasoning as to why you'd pick that.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

lol he probly says duel undead cause he thinks undead is overpowered.

Duel undead has got to be the worst match up possible. You jsut can't win, becasue u have no variety in your strategy. you truely cant go ghouls, because if they switch to air in the end ur screwed cause ud can't handle air in a 2v2, wo how is two going to handle the air.

 

[AHappyChineseBoy]

dual ud isn't that horrible, ever heard of mass ghouls with dual aura? It suprisingly rapes hardcore. =[

 

[Emperor Pan I]

IT is good yes, but potm with double ranged is the best, and duel aura with Orc and ud is good to. Orc is an amazing team race.

 

[Forged]

Originally posted by Torubu
Dual.. human? Please, give me some reasoning as to why you'd pick that.

Mass casters is what I am assuming, but I don't know.

 

[Silynt Rage]

I chose Orc and UD

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Originally posted by Prox
Oh God. Has most of the strats reverted back to caster cheese? Wasn't that what TFT was supposed to get rid of? Correct me if I'm wrong, Pan, since you know more about this then I do.

TFT got rid of caster craft, although it made way for rangecraft which is just as bad. Essentialy, in ROC you could mass shamans and trolls and beat tier 3 meele. that was messed. now you can mass ranged units in team games and still beat tier 3 units.

 

[Forged]

eh pulverize pwnz range in team, mainlly because of the fact you can't micro much in those laggy ass battles with 4 - 8 people fighting at one time or atleast I can't, my comp sucks.

 

[AHappyChineseBoy]

Orc is a nice team race, but NE kind of puts it up there with mgs and all..

 

[Emperor Pan I]

MG are over rated. thier only good spell is countered by micro. ORc is the number 1 in team games. Im talking about AT games where everyone u paly with arn't stupid morons who mass acolytes or ask me what a hero is

 

[Theroy]

Uhm pan you're an idiot. Mass gouls in team is probably the most overpowered thing you can do. don't say dual Ne is worse either because if you go dual Nightelf you lost already because there's no diversity at all and hunts just wont do it.